tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post657028517500702158..comments2024-03-28T10:34:18.285-04:00Comments on The Closet Professor: Marriage Is So GayJoehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05299122685163501819noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-78581813879814492132011-08-04T13:43:05.378-04:002011-08-04T13:43:05.378-04:00Anon, I think there is other language we can use. ...Anon, I think there is other language we can use. The English language is such a complex language that we don't have to use these words with hurtful meanings. There is no reason not to call a spade a spade. Most of those words have origins in euphemisms, gay/happy, queer/odd, etc. The meanings have changed over time, but many of us did not grow up in that changed climate.<br /><br />Underduhrainbows, I agree with you. I don't think we need to reclaim those words. They were hurtful to us, their meanings may have changed but they still have the same origins. I think if we are going to ask others not to use these words, then we should lead by example and not use them either. Then again, all of this is just my opinion.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299122685163501819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-24144446678908072322011-08-04T05:06:51.933-04:002011-08-04T05:06:51.933-04:00I don't really understand the idea of reclamat...I don't really understand the idea of reclamation, making "bad" words good by giving it "good" connotations. <br /><br />I had this discussion about the word "queer" how it's been taken back by the lgbtq community etc...but it doesn't make sense to me. <br /><br />Because a straight, homophobic person using that word would still conjure the same feelings of hate it was used for even if using the word queer amongst the queer folk means empowerment...simply, homophobes use it, it's bad, we use it, it's good. What was reclaimed when words still contain both meanings?<br /><br />Nothing in my opinion. Although, I don't think of queer as a "bad" word, and maybe that's a product of reclaiming words...<br /><br />With the n-word, the distinction is that "nigger" is a bad word regardless of who uses it but "nigga" is word only Blacks can use...this also doesn't make sense, because why would anyone want to use a word, that for centuries, meant inferiority?<br /><br />Words matter absolutely.Hetero-Challengedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15651819862297742202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-4475852207717991532011-08-04T02:29:49.068-04:002011-08-04T02:29:49.068-04:00Simple,
Perhaps my parents got angry, used the f w...Simple,<br />Perhaps my parents got angry, used the f word...but if we as children did, Wam.<br />We knew better...<br />Reclamation is good, but, you mr. CP, teach me what one can do with our considerable language...find new words, and NO, do not use a word that is ugly, or ever was. <br />One can say "ice cream" with HATE in their voice. We can not forget the "bad" words, and why they were considered bad.<br />I say, lets use the real words, Negro, Homosexual, all pretty things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-53418059340734705042011-08-03T23:22:54.386-04:002011-08-03T23:22:54.386-04:00Jay, I completely agree with you. I don't all...Jay, I completely agree with you. I don't allow this in my classroom either.<br /><br />Becca, I don't like for people to use words in mean-spirited ways either. I understand that something can be said in a more jocular good-spirited way, I can handle it.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299122685163501819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-70692869060838377032011-08-03T22:26:06.779-04:002011-08-03T22:26:06.779-04:00i personally do not like anyone using words in a m...i personally do not like anyone using words in a mean spirited way. i try to teach my son to treat everyone with respect and to speak in a respectful manner. i also try to teach him that words can hurt and once spoken can not be taken back so to think before he speaks which is what i try to do. now that being said having friends that are gay if they insist that it's ok to use certain words in their proper context then i'm ok with it but i detest when i hear someone speak words in a foul manner and i will very strongly correct them.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213055916162799647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-29805745852453059112011-08-03T21:51:08.254-04:002011-08-03T21:51:08.254-04:00I refused to allow my students to use the term &qu...I refused to allow my students to use the term "gay" in the typical "that's so gay" connotation, nor were they allowed to use any other derogatory terms for anyone. It bothers me that blacks can use the n-word to refer to each other but no one else can - it's a "good for the goose..." type of thing - you either allow it or you don't. <br /><br />There have been posts by younger people in the gay blogworld who have said that words shouldn't mean so much, but you know what, they do. Sticks and stones - HA, put up with your name being turned into "Gay" as a derogatory term and tell me words don't hurt - it's all in the context!<br /><br />Peace <3<br />JayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-28916394910134452282011-08-03T19:37:45.523-04:002011-08-03T19:37:45.523-04:00Writer, I see your point too.Writer, I see your point too.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299122685163501819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-64818701513000156462011-08-03T12:23:42.447-04:002011-08-03T12:23:42.447-04:00I hear "queer" in a coworker's voice...I hear "queer" in a coworker's voice who still in da 2000s used it in its original meaning.<br /><br />But I think reclamation of the terms is good in that it both reflects the negative connotation back at people but also lessens the punch of it.<br /><br />But I also see your point.Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445128608422429761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-53364356307171133142011-08-03T10:36:08.176-04:002011-08-03T10:36:08.176-04:00Writer, I guess, but it still makes me uncomfortab...Writer, I guess, but it still makes me uncomfortable. There are too many emotional scars related to those words. Quite honestly, every time I hear the word "queer", I seem to always hear it in my mothers voice because she can make it sound like the most awful/disgusting thing in the world.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299122685163501819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5356114186987252972.post-76265352777382497002011-08-03T10:22:31.803-04:002011-08-03T10:22:31.803-04:00Well, isn't that the whole point of the word &...Well, isn't that the whole point of the word "queer"? That we reclaimed it. It's like the Joe Jackson song "Real Men": Don't call me a faggot unless you are a friend.Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445128608422429761noreply@blogger.com